"Oh, that was the credit they gave themselves. Everything preordained, all part of their plan- Fate was just the word mortals ascribed to it in an attempt to understand." After all, it was easy to handle 'fate' as something out of someone's control and far removed. The reality that it was the Astrals themselves being dicks would be much less serviceable.

"But yes. They're the ones that got caught in this design of the gods too, in the end. As they were meant to, even if I added some... embellishments." Is that what we're calling genocide and attempts to raze a city to the ground now, Ardyn? Sure.